Written by Guest on 17.08.2013 at 20:18

The important thing to note, above everything else, is that this album is utterly naff regardless of the genre

Written by Guest on 17.08.2013 at 20:18

The important thing to note, above everything else, is that this album is utterly naff regardless of the genre

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 17.08.2013 at 20:28

Easily Death's worst by far.

Written by Guest on 10.05.2013 at 00:41

All Death albums would be better without Chuck's vocals if you ask me. Probably one of the worst sounding vocalists I've ever heard.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 20.08.2013 at 19:52

If Chuck kept his vocals in the same style as Death's first 2 albums then his later material would have been way better.

Written by Guest on 10.05.2013 at 00:41

Probably one of the worst sounding vocalists I've ever heard.

Written by Hex_Omega on 28.01.2015 at 20:52

Vocally he sucks on this one but his vocals are Ok on previous albums. Honestly I think Ihsahn is worse (his screams, not clean vocals of course). And of course nobody is able to beat Dani.

Written by Guest on 28.01.2015 at 21:20

Well the only Emperor album I like is Nightside, and to be honest I've never been bothered by the vocals from it (I've heard a few complaints that they're a bit "Waaaah waaaah" ish though). Not heard much Ihsahn stuff either. Not really my cup of coffee.

Written by Ilham on 28.01.2015 at 21:50

I thought this was a Death thread. And I get moaned at for off-topic.

Written by deadone on 03.03.2015 at 06:08

Written by woshige on 03.03.2015 at 01:27

but those who are open-minded should give this one a chance.

It's got nothing to do with open mindedness.

Just cause people don't like something doesn't mean they're close minded. Conversely liking something doesn't mean the person is open minded.

Written by deadone on 03.03.2015 at 06:35

Written by woshige on 03.03.2015 at 06:30

...than just panning it because of a certain aspect they didn't like.

Giving it a listen and not liking certain aspects is still being "open minded."

Indeed panning it for not liking certain aspects is quite reasonable.

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Also, being open-minded is not just about "liking" something but a general attitude. It is not competitive or argumentative. Good day.

You implied the opposite - your statement was loaded to imply it's an album for "open minded" types. Open minded is trying something out of one's comfort zone. For many metalheads Death is very much within their comfort zone.

Anyhow I've tried this album numerous times over 15 years and can't stand it. In fact I can't stand most things by Death. Give me Atheist anyday.

Written by deadone on 03.03.2015 at 06:58

Written by woshige on 03.03.2015 at 06:46

S T O P T R O L L I N G.

Hilariously hypocrital.

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1) Music is objective. Stop arguing with people that have nothing to do with you or your opinions.
2) Everyone's opinions on music is worthless. Take mine for what it is and don't convince me or anyone else otherwise.

Totally agree.

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3) You have a very hostile and insecure perspective. Neutral posts threaten your opinions so easily.

Saying an album is for open minded people (thus implying people who don't like it are close minded) is not a neutral opinion. Neither is basically stating that people who don't like the album because of some aspects are close minded.

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4) You don't have to give any examples of other bands or music, you don't get any awards for liking something else.

Merely stating my personal preferrence is for Atheist when it comes to proggy early 1990s Death Metal.

Written by deadone on 03.03.2015 at 07:09

Written by woshige on 03.03.2015 at 07:02

Then what the fuck? By you even trying to argue being "open-minded" to an opinion in the first place is just unnecessary. There was no threat implied in my first post because I already excluded your opinion. Why can't you do the same?

Your exact words (emphasis is mine):

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if you dont want to listen just because of the vocals, then you'll never understand or appreciate this album (which is ironic because that's how extreme metal is). people who already decided to hate this album can't be helped, but those who are open-minded should give this one a chance.

Basically what you wrote was:

1. People don't understand this album but you do (implies a sense of your own superiority).

2. "People who have already decided to hate this album" - Basically equates to haters gonna hate (thus writing off other's opinions as irrational hate).

3. Sound of Perserverance is for people with an "open mind" thus implying that haters are "close minded."

Written by deadone on 03.03.2015 at 07:19

Written by woshige on 03.03.2015 at 07:13

This is exactly what I am talking about. You perceive threats out of my post for no reason and out of nowhere. I told you it was not argumentative but you make it an argument in your mind. That's why you are the troll because you replied to my post in the first place. Please if you really can't like this album, don't read the forums because you'll waste everyone's time and yours.

So the forums shoulds only be for people who like the albums? Wow, just wow!

You say it's not argumentative but accuse everyone who doesn't like the vocals as "not understanding the album" and being close minded. That is argumentative.


Personally I don't give a flying fuck that you like this album. That's your perogative. But people have every right to not like the album and every right to comment on an album as to why they don't like it.


I always think it's hilarious that fanboys crap on about being open minded but can't handle criticism of their favourite things.

Written by deadone on 03.03.2015 at 07:33

You're a funny dude. In the end you accused people of close mindedness and stated that forums are only for fans and then tried to psychoanalyse me. How hilarious.