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Posted by Unknown user, 11.11.2006 - 14:17
what do you all think about these two taboo subjects? in sweden, prostitution is illegal. i think this is wrong. i want a more liberal society. supply and demand should be put to use. people who are against prostitution always gives the argument "the girls are being used by the men". well, thats the same thing as the guy working at mc donalds is being used, coz its a shitty job with low wage. but what if the girl chooses to be a prostitute. then why is it wrong?
the same with pornography. people say "men learn to see women as objects". well, i admit that i've watched porn, but that doesnt make me look at women as objects. its still supply and demand. people are willing to expose themselves on the camera, and people are willing to pay to see the movies.

as long as no one gets hurt, it should be legal

am i right? what do you think?
28.03.2014 - 21:53
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Written by toxx on 28.03.2014 at 10:24
In Norway, prostitution is actually bocoming a problem. I think this is mainly because of the governments stupid laws. It's not illegal to sell sex in Norway, but it is illegal to buy. Prostitutes are required to pay income tax as well, something I find quite strange, based on the fact that they can not lawfully make money by doing what they do.

Good move by the government actually. They know prohibition doesn't work so they tax the trade and pocket some spending money for the politicians, all the while appearing totally on the side of the working woman by allowing her the legal right to sell her body. It's a win-win for them really.
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28.03.2014 - 22:07
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Well like weed, sometimes i't s better with the politician fuckwits than sleazy drug dealers selling to kids and massive raids and cops knocking at your door in the morning.. as much as i hate to say it.
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28.03.2014 - 22:30
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Tage Westerlund
Written by Troy Killjoy on 28.03.2014 at 21:53

Written by toxx on 28.03.2014 at 10:24
In Norway, prostitution is actually bocoming a problem. I think this is mainly because of the governments stupid laws. It's not illegal to sell sex in Norway, but it is illegal to buy. Prostitutes are required to pay income tax as well, something I find quite strange, based on the fact that they can not lawfully make money by doing what they do.

Good move by the government actually. They know prohibition doesn't work so they tax the trade and pocket some spending money for the politicians, all the while appearing totally on the side of the working woman by allowing her the legal right to sell her body. It's a win-win for them really.


In ned where its legal IMO they also pay taxes and if its legal , women be protected from pimps, angels , bandido, gremium or whatevergang controls that town and other pimps, and mafia ... I have seen what brutality in Hungary gypsy mafia use to keep women work... in west its much better.,.. same if its be legal, taxes, incomes, and women's safty

same why I am not sceptic anymore about weed legalisation , might be incomes in our budget. just I saw Ndrangheta/Mafia in Reggo Di Calabnria (Cosa Nostra wa sin Sicily, Comora in napoli area and Sacra Corona Unita in Apulia) just get 60 milions per year from drugs ... and all it goes out of taxes .... if we legalize some part of this deadly virus we can have incomes and BIG ones, besides it will weeken ceiminal oragansatins, since war aganst weed costw ay to much
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28.03.2014 - 22:37
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Written by Bad English on 28.03.2014 at 22:30


same why I am not sceptic anymore about weed legalisation , might be incomes in our budget. just I saw Ndrangheta/Mafia in Reggo Di Calabnria (Cosa Nostra wa sin Sicily, Comora in napoli area and Sacra Corona Unita in Apulia) just get 60 milions per year from drugs ... and all it goes out of taxes .... if we legalize some part of this deadly virus we can have incomes and BIG ones, besides it will weeken ceiminal oragansatins, since war aganst weed costw ay to much

yeah well look it all the money there making in colorado and washington state already, it's a no brainer really....still keeping an eye to see how this pans out though
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28.03.2014 - 22:42
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Written by [user id=136611] on 28.03.2014 at 22:37

Written by Bad English on 28.03.2014 at 22:30


same why I am not sceptic anymore about weed legalisation , might be incomes in our budget. just I saw Ndrangheta/Mafia in Reggo Di Calabnria (Cosa Nostra wa sin Sicily, Comora in napoli area and Sacra Corona Unita in Apulia) just get 60 milions per year from drugs ... and all it goes out of taxes .... if we legalize some part of this deadly virus we can have incomes and BIG ones, besides it will weeken ceiminal oragansatins, since war aganst weed costw ay to much

yeah well look it all the money there making in colorado and washington state already, it's a no brainer really....still keeping an eye to see how this pans out though


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Ned had free weed and there no problems to smoke it even now its strikter rules, but non war , nothing because of drugs
In Scandi there was drug war between biker gangs , and they have military hard wear, same shit as scandi lands army, because drugs makes milliards of kroner to their incomes...week
in Stkh one guy in one day get more then a million kroner by selling cocain ....only idiots use drugs, why we cant get incomes from taxes in our economics? they will use anyway legal or illegal ... same goes for prostitition what is not a bad think, because we all have sex no metter what
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06.04.2014 - 17:36
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Pornography and Prostitution are complete seperate things that shouldnt be discussed at the same breath.
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06.04.2014 - 19:03
Karlabos
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Written by [user id=144168] on 06.04.2014 at 17:36

Pornography and Prostitution are complete seperate things that shouldnt be discussed at the same breath.

I agree. Sometimes I look at this topic but it seems the serious discussion is all about prostitution.
I never really saw anyone discussing pornography here.
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06.04.2014 - 19:25
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Tage Westerlund
Written by Karlabos on 06.04.2014 at 19:03

Written by [user id=144168] on 06.04.2014 at 17:36

Pornography and Prostitution are complete seperate things that shouldnt be discussed at the same breath.

I agree. Sometimes I look at this topic but it seems the serious discussion is all about prostitution.
I never really saw anyone discussing pornography here.


read older posts when it was created
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06.04.2014 - 20:12
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Although different, porn and prostitution have a loads of common points. No big deal in having a thread with both :
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07.04.2014 - 04:02
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07.04.2014 - 04:07
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07.04.2014 - 04:10
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It's not often Family Guy gets a laugh out of me, but sometimes they really know how to deliver a message.
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07.04.2014 - 19:10
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Tage Westerlund
Same did beavis n butthead
theyw anted to buy whore, old bill was listenimng and pug female cop, theys ai, * we wanna hghaghaghggahha,and they were blusshed red, we wannaghhehghahahahhah''
they foild say we wanna have sex, theyw ere ashamed and cops walk away , cant find epziode
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22.06.2014 - 19:05
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Written by [user id=15104] on 11.11.2006 at 14:17

what do you all think about these two taboo subjects? in sweden, prostitution is illegal. i think this is wrong. i want a more liberal society. supply and demand should be put to use. people who are against prostitution always gives the argument "the girls are being used by the men". well, thats the same thing as the guy working at mc donalds is being used, coz its a shitty job with low wage. but what if the girl chooses to be a prostitute. then why is it wrong?
the same with pornography. people say "men learn to see women as objects". well, i admit that i've watched porn, but that doesnt make me look at women as objects. its still supply and demand. people are willing to expose themselves on the camera, and people are willing to pay to see the movies.

as long as no one gets hurt, it should be legal

am i right? what do you think?


Supply and demand is a shitty excuse for anything. There are many things which could be supplied and demanded, but should be made illegal, like pouching endangered animals. The problem is that when prostitution is legal many of the prostitutes are still forced into the business, banning prostitution might make there be more illegal prostitution, but it makes it easier to crack down on illegal prostitution and prevent human trafficking.
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22.06.2014 - 22:14
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Written by Ganondox on 22.06.2014 at 19:05


Supply and demand is a shitty excuse for anything. There are many things which could be supplied and demanded, but should be made illegal, like pouching endangered animals. The problem is that when prostitution is legal many of the prostitutes are still forced into the business, banning prostitution might make there be more illegal prostitution, but it makes it easier to crack down on illegal prostitution and prevent human trafficking.

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05.07.2018 - 05:04
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Written by Troy Killjoy on 07.04.2014 at 04:02




Now that was on point!
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05.11.2018 - 00:45
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China was a neat
Indian Telecom department orders to reinstate a ban from 2015 (which lasted about a week back then after it was removed due to opposition from the public) to block about 800 porn sites which obviously is ridiculously easy to get around. But the Government is highly becoming a serious fascist / hindu extremist problem here. Lame.
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24.01.2021 - 23:25
Drippy.Hippie
Has anyone here ever subscribed to OnlyFans.com?

That shit is addictive, my card was even declined once and I had to get it straightened out over the phone, I had to prove there was no fraud

From personal experience, it gives the sensation of sort of a virtual strip club more or less.

OnlyFans stop accepting my debit card though, I understand that that's a common problem for people who don't have an American card. Such bullshit. The worst part is, one of the girls I subscribed to still owes me a custom video which I requested.....I fucking already payed her for it, but they stopped accepting my debit card so

I have that same girl as a Facebook friend though (she actually sent me a friend request years before I even knew what OnlyFans was, we have many mutual friends), so maybe one day when I'm feeling bold, I can private message her and work something out. She fucking took my money but I got no custom video!
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25.01.2021 - 00:49
Karlabos
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I always automatically assume every site with that premise is a scam.
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25.01.2021 - 02:16
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I can masturbate for free, thanks.
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25.01.2021 - 10:58
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Tage Westerlund
There are free porn sites whit good quality porn. Now home made porn are made whit good HD cameras. Few classic and older porn us for free somewhere to.
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12.02.2021 - 20:38
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Tage Westerlund
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56019589

I did like 80's, 90's porn, even not now, bad quality, you dont see so well there, But from mid 90's I cant watch US porn, I like classic Marc Dorcel, Private Gold, movies. I donty like that big, fake titts, ass sex porn. Somehow classic had some touch, I did grew up whit Hustler, MD, Private porno.
Now I hardly watch it, maybe in xxnx page .. sometimes, but I miss those classic times in my life, when I was young and we did watch a lot of good porn.
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24.09.2023 - 06:35
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I don't mean to sound like some ultraconservative douchebag, but I don't think consuming porn is necessarily a good thing. Got rid of my porn addiction last spring and never going back there again. I don't think I even consumed that much of it, some pics and videos every now and then, but that was enough to mess my mind and when I tried to stop it felt like my head was exploding, like there was nothing interesting or fun to do anymore and felt pissed off at everything for days. Now that I'm clean I find it easier to focus on my work and relationships when this stuff isn't bothering me and making me feel horny all the time. There's more to life and people than just sex anyway.
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28.09.2023 - 11:02
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Tage Westerlund
Written by Metal Rasputin on 24.09.2023 at 06:35

I don't mean to sound like some ultraconservative douchebag, but I don't think consuming porn is necessarily a good thing. Got rid of my porn addiction last spring and never going back there again. I don't think I even consumed that much of it, some pics and videos every now and then, but that was enough to mess my mind and when I tried to stop it felt like my head was exploding, like there was nothing interesting or fun to do anymore and felt pissed off at everything for days. Now that I'm clean I find it easier to focus on my work and relationships when this stuff isn't bothering me and making me feel horny all the time. There's more to life and people than just sex anyway.

Good point, I never have been addicted to porn, but some Marc Dorcel classics and Private Gold under that name why not in the early 00's.
Ron Jeremy is funny to.
Now you see those professional 90's porn studio work, nowadays in Porn hube whit HD camera from cheapest store local person from the forest can make better quality video as those pros then.
I dont like modern prof porn its stenotype, more less women should be super model whit fake titts and in all movies there should be anal scene before happy ending. Today scene is long its like 15 or more minutes.
Then amatour vids are much better and well once or twice per month I check some porn, not more.
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07.10.2023 - 23:11
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Written by Bad English on 12.02.2021 at 20:38

but I miss those classic times in my life, when I was young and we did watch a lot of good porn.

That's beautiful.
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08.10.2023 - 10:42
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The original post is a bit incorrect, technically. I can't read 21 pages to see if this was already brought up, but I wouldn't say prostitution is illegal in Sweden. Only buying sex is illegal, the actual prostitutes aren't considered criminals but mostly victims, and the people who pay for their services are the only ones who are committing a crime in this situation. The idea behind this is to protect women in already bad situations from being prosecuted for doing what they do, while dissuading potential buyers from partaking.
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08.10.2023 - 20:37
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Tage Westerlund
Written by Netzach on 08.10.2023 at 10:42

The original post is a bit incorrect, technically. I can't read 21 pages to see if this was already brought up, but I wouldn't say prostitution is illegal in Sweden. Only buying sex is illegal, the actual prostitutes aren't considered criminals but mostly victims, and the people who pay for their services are the only ones who are committing a crime in this situation. The idea behind this is to protect women in already bad situations from being prosecuted for doing what they do, while dissuading potential buyers from partaking.

I don't think criminal is right world to say, it's like saying peeing in a middle of street is crime brake the law maybe.
To me both sides should be equal punished by law, but then again I never ever seen or heard about place where you can buy sex in a nordic sweden, never had paid and never will to buy a prostitute.
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08.10.2023 - 20:51
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Written by Bad English on 08.10.2023 at 20:37

I don't think criminal is right world to say, it's like saying peeing in a middle of street is crime brake the law maybe.
To me both sides should be equal punished by law, but then again I never ever seen or heard about place where you can buy sex in a nordic sweden, never had paid and never will to buy a prostitute.

Likewise. I've been to places like Amsterdam where prostitution exists publicly and legally and it gave me a really bad feeling walking through those streets.
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08.10.2023 - 21:13
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Tage Westerlund
Written by Netzach on 08.10.2023 at 20:51

Written by Bad English on 08.10.2023 at 20:37

I don't think criminal is right world to say, it's like saying peeing in a middle of street is crime brake the law maybe.
To me both sides should be equal punished by law, but then again I never ever seen or heard about place where you can buy sex in a nordic sweden, never had paid and never will to buy a prostitute.

Likewise. I've been to places like Amsterdam where prostitution exists publicly and legally and it gave me a really bad feeling walking through those streets.

I never have been, but I gave been on hooker bar once, where low moral people and such lowlife hangs. Nja I prefer rugby hookers. I can't enjoy prostitute, well I have problems to get women in bars and do on, and it's more pleasant, have some cool evening before doing it as whit prostitute. Jerking off is better. It is more well, even there it us legal, still not worth it can be you lose part of your soul.
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08.10.2023 - 22:07
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Written by Bad English on 08.10.2023 at 21:13
still not worth it can be you lose part of your soul

I'm not a religious person, so I wouldn't necessarily call it 'soul', but I get what you're trying to say. Maybe 'dignity' is a better term?
However, that's a very interesting point of view, and I think there's a lot of truth in this thought.

I mean, people always talk about women being objectified through prostitution and that it's degrading to sell your body, but isn't it just as degrading when you have to pay to experience the illusion of sexual attraction and intimacy? Don't get me wrong, it's not that I find prostitution reprehensible in principle and in absolutely every situation, but I still find it kind of pathetic when men, who usually like to flaunt their self-confidence and masculinity, have to pay for sex.
For me, that's the exact opposite of masculinity and self-confidence.
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